This summer I’ll be spending my time studying brain development in the Silver Lab. The research I’ve been doing here these past two weeks is groundbreaking. It’s been a dream of mine to work in a neuroscience laboratory for some time now. I am specifically interested however in developmental biology. With its cutting-edge neural stem cell research, the Silver Lab manages to combine two of my greatest interests, developmental biology and neuroscience.
Having just started out here, I have a lot to learn. Though I have worked in other labs previously, I find that laboratories vary with surprising specificity. Although some of skills from working in my other lab have helped me greatly, there are many techniques I have yet to master. I have tried, several times to isolate completely intact brains from developing mouse embryos, and have yet to master the art. Of course sharpening my skills and developing expertise in research requires time and often mentorship. I have the pleasure of working in a welcoming and encouraging lab. What better way to learn the ways of research than to interview a master?
I’d like to introduce my primary mentor, Dr. Debra Silver an accomplished scientist and the principal investigator of my lab. In the following interview Dr. Silver or Debby for short, reveals to me her journey and experiences in science.
Here is a photo of my secondary mentor Louis-jan (LJ) and me in the lab!
Where are you from?
I grew up in Massachusetts in a small town called Southboro, which is 40 minutes west of Boston.
Were you always interested in science?
Yes. I think I realized I loved science in high school. I wasn’t one of those people who grew up doing science experiments here and there. I took my first biology and chemistry courses in high school, and I went home and realized I liked doing my chemistry homework every day, well, that’s when I realized I liked science.
Where did they go to school and why did u go there? What was your major?
I went to Tufts in Massachusetts. I first became interested in Tufts because my father went there. I decided to go there because I loved their campus and I knew that they had a pretty strong program in biology and I wanted to be a biology major. I also wanted to be closer to Boston.
How long have you know that you wanted to pursue a career in science and specifically neuroscience?
When I was in college I started doing research for three summers. After I graduated I decided that I wanted to do more research and so I went back to the same lab that I did summer research in. I ended up staying there for four years. I originally had planned on going there for two years, to save enough money to travel around the world. I got really into my project, and my boss at the time treated me more like a graduate student than a technician. I was a lab technician at the time. I got so into it that I ended up staying for four years and I got a couple papers out. That convinced me that I wanted to go to graduate school. I applied after I had been in the lab for two years and I deferred for a year. I had one first author paper and two coauthors as a lab technician. That was how I got excited. I got interested in Neuroscience towards the end of graduate school. In graduate school I had been working on basic science questions on how cells migrate in drosophila. I decided that I wanted to move to a system that had more relevance to humans, so that was mice. I was particularly interested in the nervous system because it’s so fundamental for life.
What do you like best about being a researcher?
I love the thrill of discovering something that no one else has discovered before and I love the opportunity to peer into biology and learn about something that’s been perfected by a cell and chip away at our understanding of it. I like the creativity involved in coming up with new experiments and the thrill of finding something new.
Any disasters in the lab or embarrassing moments?
When I was a summer student I had spent a week making a radioactive probe. I lost sight of time when I was boiling it and completely melted it all over the heat block. I also found out the hard way that xylene has to be stored in glass and not plastic. It melts plastic. I did that experiment inadvertently and it melted a whole thing of plastic.
Have you had experience in a non-academic environment?
Well I did my postdoc in a government lab. That was a very different experience. I’ve learned that I love academics. I think it’s a huge part of being a scientist to teach other people what we know. I think the science can go in really exciting directions when people who are working on the problem have no bias as to what they think is going to happen. The government lab was a very exciting place to work. The world is your oyster as a scientist, you have so many resources.
What do you like to do outside of science?
I have two kids so most of my free time goes towards them. I love mountain biking. I like photography. I like mostly just spending time with my family, playing soccer with my kids. I like yoga too.
How did you end up at Duke?
When you are looking for a job you apply to a bunch of places that have labs. I ended up deciding on Duke because it was a great place that combined my interested in neurobiology, developmental biology, and RNA biology and there are a lot of people doing that here. I have pretty broad interests.
How has your experience been teaching?
I really like teaching. For a long time I thought I wanted a position that was more teaching and less research. I wish teaching was more appreciated. I love teaching and having people in my lab. I guess that’s more mentoring. I love when people take a class out of interest and not a requirement. I’ve always tried to teach. Actually when I was a graduate student I tried teaching students in high school in Baltimore.
What is your greatest finding?
I don’t know what my greatest finding is. But my most exciting finding was in graduate school. Hopefully everyone has that day when they find something really exciting in the lab. For me, that was in graduate school. I had generated mutations in flies in the components of the JAT/STAT signaling pathway. I had discovered that this pathway was required for cell migration in fly ovaries. My most exciting experiment in graduate school was the day that I overexpressed components of this pathway in post-mitotic cells. This caused a huge increase in the number of cells that migrated. This showed that JAK/STAT was not only required for migration but was also sufficient to tell a cell to migrate. I was third year graduate student and it was a very unique finding. That was the first really big finding of my career.
What are you looking forward to most?
Having our lab really make an impact on the field of stem cells and neural development, cortical development, and all of the members of our having the chance to taste success and make impacts on the field. I would also like to potentially identify things that have an important influence on neurodevelopmental diseases.
What would you change about doing science?
I wish the public appreciated the time it takes to do science and the importance of basic science towards finding cures for disease. I wish it was more appreciated.
What lessons do you have or advice for someone pursuing a career in science?
I think find out what you are passionate about and work on it. I think it’s really helpful to find a mentor, someone you can look too as a role model, and be patient because science requires a lot of patience. But if you put in the patience it will reap awards back at you. Any career, science or otherwise, is just that you are passionate about it. Graduate school is a lot of work, be passionate about it. If you are looking for opportunities in labs, look for places that are nurturing and helping you develop as a scientist as opposed to just treating you as a person who is there. You have to be willing to put in the hard work. I think it’s important to always maintain enthusiasm.